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    April 17, 2013
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right now, heightened alert. the secret service intercepts a her possibly laced with ricin, and similar to a letter sent to mississippi's senator roger wicker. more precise tests are under way. we're following late breaking details from the white house, homeland security and capitol hill. in boston today, the city mourns monday's victims, and a favorite son gets emotional on coincidence? are they witnesses. but to say they have a suspect we're told is not correct at this point. >> pete, thank us very much. tom ridge was the first director of homeland security, and he joins me now. you heard pete williams. in an investigation, they see a picture, they want to talk to obviously anyone who might be seen putting down a package. capitol hill. >> i've talked this week with friends and family up there, as recently as this morning, and the granddaughter of a very, very close supporter and friend of mine, through all my political career, is fighting to keep both of her legs. boston is not going to be intimidated by this, but we're going to find out who did this. the fbi releases the first that doesn't mean a person is a suspect, but certain -- >> when pete was given the description, it reminded me of the times that you and i, a lot of americans buy those 1,000 or 5,000-piece puzzle. magnify that by a million. they have more pictures or videos that you can imagine, but they'll do it in a me tick las incremental way just as they're picking up pieces of evidence on the scene, they'll do the same
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pictures of the bombs used in monday's attacks. while investigators follow up on more than 2,000 eyewitness tips. >> there is no current indication to suggest the attas walks indicative, but out of an abundance of caution, we continue to keep in place enhanced security measures, both seen and unseen. >> we're learning more about the three who died including thing with the picture puzzle from all the video undoubtedly they received. it's a good and appropriate investigative technique. >> you know what goes on in a situation like this. obviously we have a suspect or suspects at large, who produced a terror attack and killed people. so there is a real impetus to get answers, a political impetus obviously there's pressure to get answers, but at the same graduate student lingzu dislu and krystle campbell, who went to the marathon to cheer for her friend. >> she was always smiling. you couldn't ask for a better daughter. i can't believe this has happened. she's such a happy worker at everything she did. this doesn't make any sense. as boston comes to grips with monday's tragedy, the time the worst thing would be to go after the wrong people. what's going on right now? you see here people saying we need answers, you hear people on the hill saying it, people in the white house quietly telling reporters we want answers, what should be the mode of the fbi and the people in charge? >> well, i don't think we have to be concerned at all about the sense of urgency that all the -- the small army of investigators, state, local, federal, but it's a very difficult process. remember how long it took us to
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newtown families are dealing with an unexpected blow as the senate prepares for key blows today on background checks. joe manchin tells nbc news he doesn't have the votes. >> we have over 90% of the senate democrats that will vote affirmative. if we just had 20% of our republican colleagues, that's not a heavy ask, not a heavy lift. in west virginia, gun show background and criminal checks for gun shows, 83% of west identify the perpetrator after the '96 atlanta bombing. it took quite some time. but -- that's why i think we want answers, we live in a just in time world, but it's more complicated than that, and i think empeet should be all sure, the i want said everything that needs to be done is being identified. it maybe by months, it may be years, just let the process work itself out. we've had a scattering of virginiaens support it in one of toughest gun culture in the country. 86% across the board. but they can't get to 60. good day on "andrea mitchell reports" in washington. as the fbi is learning more about the bombs used, capitol hill is now on alert. suspicious letters are being tested. they're targeting senators, and we have learned president obama as well. we should calling there's always suspicious letters and packages. plim gnarl tests indicate ricin in the letters to senator wicker, and they were intercepted at the off-site facility. a lot of these are procedures you helped put in place. post-9/11, the anthrax attack happened a month later. we at nbc were victim to one of the attacks, and there was no relationship. the immediate response is oh, we're under siege again, but there was no relationship.
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the possibility of fats positives in the initial screening machines. joining me -- pete, first to you, what are we learning about these letters and the possibility of ricin? >> the possibility is the word, andrea. sent from a single person in mississippi, authorities believe they know who has done this. they've questioned that -- and they're waiting to see what the anthrax is far more serious, more lethal. tell us what goes on in making sure these suspicious packages are also identified. >> some say we go back to the future. we had the 9/11 incident and the there can letters, most of which we are hoaxes, but obviously several people died. the fact of the matter is the infrastructure that's been built through a series of administrations to preempt this results are on them. ricin is made from castor beans. we've seen this happen in the past, someone will grind up castor beans, put them in an envelope, and that will trip the indicators that are looking for ricin, sort of like the difference between opium and poppies. they come from the same thing, but they're not the same thing. so they have these preliminary tests that -- for the last kind of incursion, this toxic incursion to the hill, that facility was build under the postmaster general with the great support of congress. the fact that you look at what happened in boston -- this is a story that will be written i think in greater details when the time is right. the fire services, the police, mcsill services folks rushed to the scene immediately. the hospitals were prepared for mass casualty events. the communication lines were open. the coordination was full and
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decade, no mail goes directly to the white house or lots of other government buildings. they have these -- they can't know for certainly until it's cultured, then they'll examine it. there may be more than these letters. whether it really contains ricin or not, we probably won't know until probably the very earliest later today or tomorrow. complete. that didn't happen by accident. there's an infrastructure that wasn't in place before 9/11 that's available now. i suspect when we look back, boston got quite a bit of money in grants, we're sharing information, did training and exercises, so at the end of the day i used to say homeland security may be a federal agencies, it's a national mission, you have to train together and fight together, and the after-action report i think should be kudos to the men and women who responded so >> there are, there was a letter to saginaw, michigan office of carl levin and we should also point out that ricin, while poisonous is for the like anthrax. anthrax can be terribly, terribly dangerous. i wanted to bring in mike at leiter in as well. beautifully. and psychological people ran to the hospital to give blood, ran to the fire, resiliency is not only an infrastructure, but psychology. i think we're demonstrating in boston we're a pretty resilient country. >> one quick factual question. letters don't just go to senators or the white house any longer. they go to the interim facility. everything is screened off-site. >> everything is channeled will you a special facility built post-/9/11, post the anthrax scares. obviously i think the field
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from your assessment and your sources, how is this proceeding, the fbi 2,000 tips, getting pictures, putting together the pieces of what these bombs were, what they were made of, how far have they gotten, do you know? >> i think they're doing quite well. we're not yet 48 hours in. tests are probably a bit better too these days. we had so many false-positives, but way back then we were talking about ricin during the anthrax attacks. in 2003, i think there was a ricin-related arrest and prosecution in great britain. i believe they were from northern africa, using ricin. so people have been paying attention to this for quite some time, but that facility was built in response. >> thank you very much. we're getting there now, and they now have a pretty good idea about these devices. they know how many, they have a sense of how they were carried to the side, so that's a huge piece. from surveillance cameras that were in place from the city of boston, businesses in the area, and of course all of the photos and surveillance movies that people got on that you are iphones and everything else. and "sweet caroline" the unofficial boston anthem played in an unusual setting last night, yankee stadium. the tribute to boston was echoed as balance parks around the nation in solidarity with red sox nation. ♪ sweet caroline ♪ good times never seemed so
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then the other is looks at these pictures. they have identified several things that stand out to them. but that would be a process of elimination. >> there have been questions to why we talk about the devices. the fbi is putting pictures out, because they want us to let people know what has been used. >> but just to be clear, these pictures were actually not released by the fbi or the government. we've gotten or hands on them, because they were either in intelligence bulletins, or i've never seen this many pictures this early in an investigation. i think the fbi shared them with some of their intelligence partners overseas who leaked them to an overseas news agency who put the pictures out there.
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but all these pictures, very surprising. >> it is surprising. thanks for the correction. part of the investigating procedures is, do you know someone who has been collecting they materials? >> absolutely. at pete said, over the past tense years they had warned local authorities, so that was want to save on electricity? don't use it. live like they did long ago. or just turn off the lights when you leave a room. you can conserve energy wisely. the more you know. inevitable. it's unfortunate that really sensitive information also needs to be protected, because the fbi, this is such a fluid investigation, they can't allow investigates to get out. it might warn the people they are looking for, or release -- >> so it's obviously on our shoulders to make sure that is protected in conjunction with the fbi and making sure we're not reporting on things that shouldn't be out there. glass on floors. daily chores. for the little mishaps you feel use neosporin to help you heal. it kills germs so you heal four days faster. neosporin. use with band-aid brand bandages.
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>> the events in boston, facing a likely defeat of new gun laws. david grer goir join me now. david, you've been tracking this, kelly has following every in and out of it. [ bells tolling ] queen elizabeth, leading dignitaries from around the world at the sermonian funeral of margaret thatcher in london. echblg joe biden was telling people last night they were two both short. >> even hide camp said she's now not for it. >> it could be just among a small -- the reality is the background checks appear to be going by the wayside as has the benjamin netanyahu, henry kissinger and george shultz were there. she received full military honors, adorned with white roses. there were some protests along the route. the funeral's $15 million price tag is also causing controversy, with prominent politicians saying she was too diadvicive a figure. margaret thatcher died of a stroke last month at age 87. more than 100 federal, state
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magazine back. there are other taemds as a part of this. that would be part of the final package. make no mistakes they are prepared to come on the blasting on this, to make the point that republicans say what repeatedly is a 90% issue. >> and kell, from what you're hearing on the hill, there's no and local investigators are scouring a 12-block stretch around boylston street for clues to who was responsible for the bombing. mark mazetti is a correspondent for "new york times," and author of "the way of the knife." about the secret drone war. first of all, mark, congratulations on the book. >> thank you very much. >> rave reviews and extraordinary reporting here. first about boston and what we chance they're not going to proceed to these votes. they're goods to go ahead and force the votes even though they know they can't beat the filibuster? >> that is a question we have raised. every person involved says yes, they're going forward with the votes. they want the opportunity to be on record. one of the strategies that was talked about, but ultimately did not come to pass was the idea of taking at the initial votes on the assault weapons back and the high-capacity magazines. politically speaking, that would allow some members to get a no know. there's a great deal of interest about whether this could have been foreign or domestic. we don't know that yet. this is a very common type of homemade incendiary device. >> pete williams gave the latest on where the federal authorities are zeroing in on suspects. the big sort of story yesterday was the construction of the bombs and whether speculatively, the bombers could have taken any inspiration from an online
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vote on record, and then perhaps in a better space politically to vote yes on background checks, but harry reid and mitch mcconned have put together this deal to vote on nine amendments, all related to guns, various aspects that will begin at 4:00 today. they agreed that it would be a 60-vote threshold. had republicans agreed to not put that 60-vote threshold in place, certainly democrats had enough, but they do not have all of their members, and there are only at this point three magazine only al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. even if that was the case, it wouldn't tell you if it was foreign or domestic. the point of the magazine was to tell everyone how to go do something. it could be someone linked to international terrorism or not. this is sort of the proliferation of some of these ideas, it certainly doesn't pinpoint any one specific thing. >> i also wanted to asked but a report, the bipartisan report on torture, came out yesterday, republicans who were speaking publicly, a fourth john mccain has given all the indications that he would vote yet for the expanded background checks. one thing we have heard, especially in talking in corners and hallways with some of those red state democrats, what i have heard is their offices have been lighting up with phone calls from people in their states, who do not support this. so we've talked a lot about the newtown families, ggabby giffords's influence here. what they're telling me is their would have received a lot more attention if not for the often tragedy and investigation in boston. this is a bipartisan report co-authored by asa hutchinson who was in the bush administration, and came to this conclusion very reluctantly, he said, that torture was used, it was used not just in the waterboarding, it has not been acknowledged, and it was not productive. what is your take away from all of this? >> certainly as my colleagues scott shane reported yesterday,
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own states highcamped said the people in don't want this. >> i was so struck by joe manchin saying it was 86% supported in west virginia. >> he believes that really stonily. >> by lisa murkowski, and probably others going against -- jeff flake -- is that how you explain it, the pressure on this is the most thorough look at the program, bipartisan look that we know of -- that we've seen so far. there is another report classified by the senate intelligence committee. having this bipartisan label on this report, because of its thoroughness, i think it will have a lot of clout. the issue, as you know, has been using torture -- using the term "tore curl" because torture is them? >> one of the issue says those members who have rural states are very concerned not about the over-arching idea, but the day-to-day bureaucratic piece that would become part of this. they're saying in law-abiden live -- they had would have to go to that location to do a background check, and those members who are talking about this say that's too great of a burden on law-abiding gun illegal, has been a subject of debate. these memos were all written to say these techniques are not torture. to have this report out that says let's not mince words, this was torture, i think maybe will change the materials of the debate. >> at it's described in this report, the white house lawyers in the bush white house went through legal ackro battics to say it was not torture, precisely because under the hague conventions you have war
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owners. that's kind of the small piece within this bigger story that's making it very difficult for some people who, on the surface you would think would vote for it. why they are voting against at this point there are other -- he said while they may lose this today, in fact he flat-out said he wouldn't have the votes, he will hope to bring it back. crime possibilities of charges that becomes a big foreign policy problem. that's one of the reasons why the state department was so opposed to the waterboarding under colin powell. >> exactly. to have it labeled -- so then you get into the territory of were crimes committed? and what kind of future implications there are for that. >> briefly, before i let you go. we do want to talk about it in more detail, the book. the appreciate now to move the program from the cia back to where many say it afc belonged not giving some of these republicans the room, that's what manchin was concerned about. there have been supporter who said the nra was effectively tea partied by more conservative elements of the gun lobby, making it more difficult for the nra to step back and not score, in the language of capitol hill, and hold them accountable. in the military where there could be more oversight. what you've uncovered is the extent of secret relationships with pakistan, things that have never been reported, never been revealed, i guess, to other than the intel gens community? >> i think when you look at the history of the secret war since 9/11, there's so much that's gone on in the shadows that we have not known about and not certainly told to the public or told to congress. as you said, pressure is building to become more transparent. president obama set in the state
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of course you also have the reality -- if it's a tough vote. >> and they know that it is unlikely to succeed in the house. some of them are arguing why should i walk the plank on this? is there also a big-picture look at this, those who have taken a tough vote for them on immigration, or preparing to, don't want to risk two different votes at the same time? >> you look at the analysis for marco rubio. he's stilling with the right on of the union there would be more transparency, and we'll see what happens. >> the book is "the way of the knife." the author mark mazzetti, congratulations. >> thank you very much. they're gathering to bury the state officer. the young diplomat's funeral is being held in river forest, illinois. smell she was on her way to deliver books to an afghan, she served the issue of background checks. yeah, these are tough issues. you're already hearing some of the noises about whether boston and a renewed focus on counterterror will somehow impact the immigration push. we remember well what happened after 9/11 when president bush pursued it. it was simply taken off the table because of 9/11. >> david, it still strikes me in as the escort officer for the secretary of state john kerry who reflected on her legacy today. >> i met her on my last vitt, earlier in the week, and i sat with her parents, and we swapped story about her enthusiasm, her energy, her vitality she really wanted to make a difference in the lives of people she had never met, and she was. so ann and ambassador stevens are really cut from the same
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the aftermath of boston and newtown at some point if they don't stand up for something and fight a filibuster, that there's going to be a backwash from this. americans are going to stand up and say, what are you doing is it and whom are you representing? people in this country are really hurting. people even people outside of boston. >> you have an issue with big-time public support. cloth, and that is frankly what made them such outstanding americans as well as members of the state department family. one can cost you overoue $4 a meal per person? a meal like this costs about $1.64 per serving. a family of four like yours could save over $500 bucks a year. wow. that's amazing! [ male announcer ] save on a kraft breakfast backed by the low price guarantee. walmart. [ dennis ] allstate wants everyone to be protected on the road. whether you're an allstate customer or not. all you have to do is call. [ female announcer ] call and sign up i don't think that overcomes the differences in our gun culture in the country the politics simply have not moved enough. the big question is whether we're heading interest a position where there will actually be a big backlash politically, but let's not forget as well how much of the gun debate animates public safety, and not only political debates, but even have some role in this horrible event in boston. for good hands roadside assistance today. [ dennis ] are you in good hands? her long day of pick ups and drop offs begins with arthritis pain... and a choice. take up to 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. all aboard. ♪ there's a lot i had to do... watch my diet. stay active. start insulin... today, i learned there's something i don't have to do anymore.
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don't forget, back in the oklahoma city bombing kay tim mcveigh originally went to waco to protest the brady bill. so these are very tough issues on all sides. >> and we don't know what we're dealing with yet. >> no, not yet. >> david, thank you kelly, you have a busy day up there. thank you for taking time. >> sure. and chris jansing is in boston on top of the latest developments there. my doctor said that with novolog® flexpen, i don't have to use a syringe and a vial or carry a cooler. flexpen® comes prefilled with fast-acting insulin used to help control high blood sugar when you eat. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no drawing from a vial. you should eat a meal within 5 to 10 minutes after injecting novolog® (insulin aspart [rdna origin] injection). do not use if your blood sugar is too low, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause symptoms such as sweating shakiness, confusion, and headache. chris, it appears now today you're closer to the bombing site? >> we've hearing all along that police wanted things to get back to normally, a weird word to use when you've had a tragedy. as quickly as possible. this is an area of commerce. you can see the big white medical tent that was essentially used as a trauma center in the aftermath. this is by far the closest we have gotten to that crime scene. severe low blood sugar can be serious and life-threatening. ask your health care provider about alcohol use, operating machinery, or driving. other possible side effects include injection site reactions and low potassium in your blood. tell your health care provider about all medicines you take and all of your medical conditions. get medical help right away if you experience serious allergic reactions such as body rash, trouble with breathing, fast heartbeat, or sweating. flexpen® is insulin delivery my way. covered by most insurance plans, including medicare. find your co-pay cost at myflexpen.com.
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we also learned today at times there's been as many as 100 investigators working this crime scene. they will continue to shrink it. they believe they definitely are making progress, both in findings parts of the bomb being analyzed, looking at all those individual photographs, and pieces of video, looking for a suspe suspect. >> there was also an interesting ask your health care provider about novolog® flexpen today well, he showed up in a van. [ women ] oh-awww. [ voices in background ] [ female announcer ] swapportunity. the opportunity to swap a higher calorie snack for a delicious 90 calorie yoplait light. ♪ sorry... about your date, the details of your date. [ female announcer ] just one swap a day helps keep the calories away. analysis. an assist found 6% higher police presence this year at the marathon than the last. of course they are looking at every aspect of this. you can see the activity behind me, andrea. >> and chris, what we're hearing now is these ghastly injuries, just horrendous, the amputations, the terrible lower extremity injuries, it's clear these devices were designed to yoplait. it is so good. because every flake is double-toasted... splashed with sweet honey... and covered in rich double-roasted peanuts. mmm. [ hero ] yummy. [ male announcer ] kellogg's crunchy nut. it's super delicious! at a hertz expressrent kiosk, you can rent a car without a reservation... and without a line. now that's a fast car.
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maim and kill. >> reporter: there's no doubt about it. when you hear the descriptions from some of the trauma doctors. i talked to one of the heads of the trauma department at mass general today, it is absolutely astonishing, nails and bbs being embedded in little children. as you probably know, initially there were 176 people that went to hospitals. the good news geographically you have six top trauma centers within a mile and a half of where this occurred. it's just another way you'll be traveling at the speed of hertz. senators and their staffs are remaining on edge today as more suspicious letters have been discovered at a capitol hill mail facility. senator bob menendez joins me from the hill. we know this is an off-site facility, with screening providers put in place after the anthrax attacks post-9/11. of the 69 who are still in the hospital, 19 we learned today are critical. at least three of them are children. a 9 and a 10-year-old, and over at boston medical center, there is a 5-year-old boy fighting for his life, as well as a man who is in his 60s. you mentioned the fact there have been amputations. we know at least nine people have had one or more limits amputated. when you look at the challenges ahead, it will be to try to save some of the limbs of the people what do we know about the suspicious letters and what are you being told? >> i don't know much more than that, andrea, other than that obviously from years ago when anthrax became a deadly weapon laced in a letter, that we've got these off-site facilities that do screens. that's been a saving grace, obviously in this set of circumstances. i've always concerned about her of our district office that
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who are still struggling. having said that, the doctors say that these folks are improving, that they are really feeling very positive about the progress that many of these patients have been making, and so they are hoping that it will continue in that direction. just one more thing. i should tell you we did learn the name of the third victim. as we have been reporting, she was a graduate student at boston university, majoring in constituents. don't go through the same process, but we have some very good men and women working off-site and were able to catch it. >> senator, the story of the day up there is obviously the gun compromise, why do we think it's failing. joe martialing says he thinking they short of the votes to stop the filibuster. it doesn't seem as though enough republicans are coming over. what is so difficult about this compromise procedure, which is not the university background checks? this is a very -- a much more her name is lingzu lu, a native of china. her parents and family members apparently interviewed in chinese media. she was an only child. she had gone to the race with two of her friends, one of whom went to the hospital. we believe, andrea, is still hospitalized. >> everyone was withholding the name, the family had not been fully notified. there were grandparents narrow proposal. >> andrea, i agree with you. i'm bewildered. i just came off the floor, making the case while this is a step forward, it is really a small step forward, and a small response to the families in newtown and aurora, and of the sikh temple, and throughout virginia tech that we commend rated just the other day, it's
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involved, a terrible, terribly sad story for this young graduate student. there were a number of chinese-born graduate students, chinese natives at boston university, and of course the boston community is filled with foreign students studying there. so really sad case there. when we talk about some of the terrible injuries, we know of one family where two adult brothers each lost a limb, each lost a leg. we know the young sister of such a small step forward,ity we can't seem to get the courage of some people to support the beginning and moving of the national conversation that creates greater gun safety. we have more guns in this country than any other nation, over 300 million guns owned by only 40% of the population. i can't understand, in addition to the background checks why we allow assault weapons on the streets that can fire multiple shots, ultimately for the martin richard, was an amputee. the doctors are trying to save limbs, but they're really trying to save lives. that is the essential ingredient here. >> when you talk to his doctors, and it's heartbreaking, they say this is one of the most different decision a surgeon has to make. having said that, you looked at the extent of some of the injuries, and it was absolutely evident to everyone that looked purpose of, in my mind, killing not about hunting. you don't need those types of shots to go hunting action and why you can't get reasonable gun control measures that go through a background check to at least ensure universally that someone who should not have access to guns, buff criminal records or mental illness, ultimately can't be reviewed and stopped from owning a gun. so if those are the way the votes come down, it will be
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at some, that there was no way even the best of modern medicine they could not be saved, but they would always have two surgeons look and make that determination. they wanted to be absolutely sure that nothing could be done. it's never more heart-wrenching for them than in the case of children. we've heard doctors talking about the fact that the idea of looking at a young kid and living the rest of their lives without a leg was almost more they could bear. to that point earlier today, i was talking to frank keating, incredibly disappointments. >> some said they could take a vote on immigration, but not that plus guns. do you see a linkage there? how about that fare? >> well, look, i don't link the two. i think that clearly the whole question of votes on common-sense gun safety and universal background checks is about life and death. and in fact, i don't know how governor of oklahoma during the oklahoma city bombings. he was saying that 18 years later, we're almost to the 18th anniversary, there are still people who are suffering from post traumatic stress. most of them are first-responders. when i asked him what is the biggest concern going forward, he said that for many who had to deal with this trauma, many in that tent behind me, it's going to be months even a year from now when they start to feel the impact of what they have seen, many of us would be okay with the counsel of patience and delay when we could have acted to prevent a neighbor or a loved one from being killed by a gun that ultimately we could have prevented access to. on the immigration bill, i just believe our immigration system americans believe that as well. it is time to fix it. we have a spectrum of eight senators that have come
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what they have experienced, and that is going to be a very big challenge for the folks here in boston who responded to heroically, andrea. >> thank you so much. a thought of those people wo responded heroically are civilians who applied anything they could as a tourniquet, and the fact is that emts often do not have tourniquets on their vehicles, and it's something that really needs to be done. i spoke to surgeons here today myself, who said that is a key factor often in saving a limb. together, republicans and democrats from totally different parts of the nation with a common sense proposal, that ensures our security in the country. at the same time, make sure we can promote our economic prosperity and continue to make the american dream a reality as a nation of immigrants that obeys laws. and so, it's time to fix it and i think we've got the best start that i have seen in nearly 20 years in congress of trying to pursue immigration reform. >> when do you think it will get we'll be back in just a moment. support for boston continues to pour in, especially from new york. where the once rival cities have come together to mourn. new yorkers and boston have a bit of, you know, a competition oftentimes the two cities accusing each other of various levels of suck-itude, but it's in situations like this where we realize it's clearly a to the floor? >> i'm sorry? >> i'm sorry, when do you think the immigration bill, the proposal, will actually get to the floor for votes. fz well, i think we will start off with the judiciary committee hearing this week. we will continue to move in the judiciary committee. i think we will get a positive result there. move to the floor. it is my hope that that can be accomplished in may and that we would see debate on the floor on the immigration bill in june. you know, goodwilled individuals who can improve the bill.
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sibling rivalry, and that we are your brothers and sisters in this type of event. as a city that knows the feeling of confusion, anger and grief and chaos that comes with these events, i can tell you from personal experience, you've got a hell of a city going there, and you've done an incredible job in the face of all of this. carfirmation. we welcome them. i know there are some members, if i had ten angels swearing from above this would be the best legislation for the country in reforming our system and securing our country, promoting economic opportunity and preserving the american dream, that they would say it is still not good. but i think we will get a good foundation of support, enough to beat the filibuster, enough to move forward with the strong vote and create some positive dynamic in the house. >> senator mendez, chairman of only hertz gives you a carfirmation. the immigration committee, thanks for being with us. now back to boston and boston nbc native ann thompson reporting. now we are hearing reports they may have strong leads. we don't know how to characterize -- what is the appropriate characterization, but they've seen a lot of video and there are strong leads. we are hearing there may be developments we hope. this would be very fast, though,
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and with this breaking news, joining mess is justice correspondent pete williams. what's the latest on the investigation, pete? >> well, andrea, as we want at the top of the hour, and it bearing repeating perhaps because of some reporting that's going on about a spect -- in boston, i mean -- we're told federal officials that no arrest has been made. there's a great deal of interest in a couple people they have identified. one in particular based on their review of all these pictures they have asked for. what they are concentrating on is people who appear to be carrying heavy black nylon backpacks and setting them down in the area the bombs went off. they have some matches like that and they are trying to figure out whether that is the real report. here's brian williams. >> good day pr new york. we wanted to come on the air to report some rapid movement in the investigation into the terrorist bombing at the finish line of the boston marathon. let's go to our justice correspondent pete williams in washington. we're seeing a lot of conflicting reports about a suspect, a person of interest and an arrest perhaps being imminent. >> reporter: what we know for a fact is we're told by several
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they've identified a number of people in these pictures they've looked at that could be potentially folks they want to pursue, but they can't tell at this point whether they are witnesses or actually people involved in the bombing. what they are working from is exactly what they asked for, which is all sorts of pictures and all kinds of surveillance material to see if they could see anything doing what they thought happened here, which is carrying a heavy duffel bag or deal or the koicoincidence or a witness or what. it's rather confusing at this point. partly because of the one person's item of interest is another person's suspect. but what we have been told is no arrest has been made. we have heard frankly conflicting reports from seen r your federal officials about whether they have in fact even identified anybody yet based on looking at these pictures. some say yes, some say no. heavy backpack and setting it down in the area where the bombs were set off. they had found pictures like that, they say, but they tell us it's too soon to say whether they have, quote/unquote, a suspect or not. they are pursuing these pictures, trying to identify who the people are. i asked authorities a short time ago whether they were ready to show these pictures to the public, and they said no, we're not there yet. they say they're making very i would take a step back and say whatever is going on, it is a promising development. they would hope pictures would give them the leg up they needed to move the investigation along. it's going to take awhile to figure out who could have bought all these pieces in the bomb that are relatively intact in from the explosion. it's rapidly moving. i think it's fair to say we don't precisely know what's happening right now. but i believe this is very
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fast progress in narrowing down all these pictures they have received to focus in on what they want to look at, which is people in the areas where they believe the bombs were placed setting down things they believe the bombs were carried in. they have those vectors matching up. now the question is, are the people they see doing that the actual bomber, or is this a promising that less than two days since the bomb attack, they have some hot leads. >> let's talk about the science briefly. the fact the average iphone, the number of pixels that can be blown up to do basic facial recognition. the fact that there was a report today that a stationary camera outside a department store has been critical to law enforcement. the fact that most city streets, especially boston, especially new york, have multiple views of public walkways. so that combined with the fact that science allows us to now record and memorize faces electronically, new york city has cameras that even know if an individual and a package they are carrying becomes separated over time. that this, as you indicate, we kind of knew that this would be crucial in this investigation. >> reporter: especially since they are not merely looking for
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a face in the crowd, if you will. they are looking for somebody doing a specific thing. they believe, brian, that these bombs weighed about 20 pounds a piece based on their initial analysis of what was in them. and the fact is that they are looking to find someone who was doing a specific thing. carrying a heavy bag and then setting it down and walking away. so those are the heavy criteria they are looking for and they have found some things that match that. now they are trying to figure out who is this person and trying to find them, trying to identify them, and that we know for sure is going on. beyond that whether they have actually, a, identified a person so they know who it is and where they are, and b, whether they have made arrest, we think no arrest here. we are not even sure they i.d.ed it. we heard conflicting information on whether they have identified the person, whether they know who it is rather than just a
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face. one other thing, we have been showing this picture from our affiliate in boston that shows during the race you can see what looks like a trash can. there it is. they say that thing that looks like a mailbox or a letter drop box is a trash can. you see this bag sitting down next to it. we have now been told that that is the point. it's been obscured in this picture. that's the picture being blurred afterwards to conceal the injuries. but we have been told by officials that that's the point where the bomb went off. while they can't say for sure it was in that bag because they haven't found pieces to identify, we have been told by several officials that's where one of the bombs went off in front of that restaurant. that's one of the bomb locations. >> it appeared, and to my laymen's eye, to be one of the
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trash containers that maybe paper lined with a see-through plastic outer layer that had been put there. the kind that you would see, i don't know, at outdoor events and are portable and can be picked up after they were filled with trash. >> right. i've just
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